History of Great Northern 1146

For starters, allow me to present a history page I wrote for the Minnesota Transportation Museum's web site: Click Here.

Pre-History

The arrangement of 1146's dining room, while unusual, is not unique to ACF or the Great Northern. Here is a 1947 Pullman advertisement which is almost prophetic.

Pullman Dining Car Ad

Why 1146 is 1146 (and has No Name)

The Great Northern always gave names to its dining, lounge and cafe cars - so why didn't 1145 and 1146 get names?

Construction

According to the dates on the blueprints, engineering for the five types of cars in the "International" took about 13 months - from September 1948 to October 1949.

ACF probably painted the "International" and "Red River" cars according to this Pullman painting diagram.

The International

The Great Northern's marketing department made sure everyone knew about the new streamlined "International" trains - and nearly every vendor who supplied parts trumpeted their role as well.

1145 and 1146 spent their first decade serving the route they were built for.

Lines East Pool

After being removed from the "International", 1145 and 1146 moved to St Paul, Minnesota. Through the 1960's they served on local trains terminating in St Paul.

"Great Northern Pictorial - Volume 5", by John F. Strauss, Jr. shows a train departing the St Paul Union Depot on page 73. The second car is either 1145 or 1146. Caption: "'The Stub', train #3, which replaced the 'Western Star' on May 22, 1960, between St. Paul and Minot via the Elk River-St. Cloud Line, Grand Forks, and Devils Lake, departed St. Paul Union Depot ." Another picture of "The Stub" appears on page 76 - with 1145 or 1146 as the third car.

1145 appears on page 97 of the same book. The accompanying text says the pair were assigned to the St. Paul-Fargo "Red River" following May 27, 1962 schedule changes. The westbound route was over the Elk River line, while the eastbound was over the Willmar line. Westbound the coach-diner ran dinette forward behind the head-end cars. The train was not turned, so eastbound the dinette end carried the markers at the rear of the train. Both directions are pictured, the westbound on 97 and the eastbound on 99.

A favorite picture of mine appears on page 115. It shows a passenger F, a baggage car, 1146 dining room forward, and two ex-C&NW 400 coaches on the Dakotan in August 1965. It tickles me because the Minnesota Transportation Museum has enough ex-GN equipment to re-create the train. (It would include F7 454-A, baggage car 265, coach-diner 1146, and 400 coaches 1097 and 1096.) In fact, in the picture MTM's 1096 is carrying the markers. I've had the pleasure of putting about five winters into restoring that car. Other Dakotan pictures featuring coach-diners appear on pages 117, 130, and 131; and text describing the St. Paul-Minot Dakotan appears on page 120.

Page 154 has three Dakotan pictures featuring the coach-diner twins. Two were taken in 1968, after my debut in this world, and one in 1969. The 1969 photo is a real teaser because the coach-diner is painted in Big Sky Blue, but the car's number isn't legible. The consist is unchanged.

In the November, 1980 issue of Model Railroader magazine, author Mike Schafer wrote an article on "Pike-size passenger trains." His third example was the Great Northern's four car 1969 Dakotan, complete with 1145/1146 on the rear and instructions of how to kitbash them. Recently, this article has been available for download.

Burlington Northern 21 & 22

GNRHS reference sheet 307 "Portland Passenger Train Service 1879-1971" by John F. Strauss, Jr. lists 1145 in the July 2nd 1970 consist of BN train 21 (Spokane to Portland leg of the Empire Builder and North Coast Limited). The accompanying note says "GN 1145, which had replaced a dining car, provided Continental breakfast service into Portland Union Station. This car and GN 1146 had been reassigned to BN Nos. 21 and 22's consists from discontinued Lines East passenger trains in order to reduce food service expenses."

This came from a photocopy of four black & white prints Bob Moen found. The original photographer is unknown. It was taken in the BN's ex-NP coach yard down by Dayton's Bluff in St. Paul in the late summer of 1970. Notice the two cabinets for 100-lb propane bottles are still there, as are the weather-cock type kitchen vents. These were removed by Amtrak within a few years of this photo.
At NP coach yard

Amtrak

These are from an Amtrak equipment diagram book from Bob Moen's collection. I know it is dated 1977 or slightly later, because the first Amfleet cars appear, but very few heritage cars have been removed.
Amtrak Diagram Amtrak Diagram

Winona Minnesota John Goodman found this slide in an estate sale. (Sorry, don't remember the photographer's name.) Written on the slide: "Amtrak 8400 Cafe-Lounge Winona 7-30-73". This is 1146's twin, 1145, resplendent in new Amtrak paint.
LaCrosse Wisconsin This comes from the same estate sale. Written on the slide: "Amtrak - Milw 3270 - Port of Seattle (obs) Lacrosse 1-19-74". Notice 'Port of Seattle' is coupled to either 8400 or 8401. It sure looks like 8401 to me - 1146. Notice the weather cock on the roof: It hasn't been rebuilt yet. These two ran coupled together like this on the 'International' - and here we have an encore at age 24 on Amtrak. Some others and I tried to acquire the 'Port of Seattle' and donate it to MTM, but the arsonists beat us to it.
Williston North Dakota Bob Moen took this photo of 1146, now Amtrak 8401, in Willison, North Dakota in 1975. Williston is still served by Amtrak's "Empire Builder". Notice the adjacent car is still in GN Big Sky Blue. 1146 is in Amtrak's original Platinum-Mist and red/white/blue "Pointless Arrow" paint job. At the time we thought it looked awful. Now seeing it makes me feel sorta nostalgic. Notice also, directly above "8401" on the side, the weathercock-type exhaust hood has been replaced by a fixed cap.
St Paul Minnesota This comes from the same estate sale. Written on the slide: "Amtrak - Diner 8401 St Paul 5-20-78 W.B. E. Bldr.". She is probably within a year of retirement, she's almost got more dirt than paint, and the rebuild has occured. (Bonnet exhaust cap replaced the weather cock, propane tanks removed.)

Editorial comment on the last picture above, of 8401 on the Builder in St Paul in 1978. She may look old and weary, but folks that's neglect not age. She was between 28 and 30 years old when she was retired - the same age as most of Amtrak's current fleet is today! Amtrak in the 70's was chronically under-funded, and the equipment suffered horribly.

I scanned this from page 91 of Patrick Dorin's book "Amtrak Trains & Travel" (Superior Publishing Company, 1979.) I'm particularly fond of it, because it shows Amtrak's in-service decor. As you'll see in the restoration photos, the Amtrak route map on the wall was gone by the time I first set foot in it. Judging by other Amtrak signage, and the adhesive left on the wall, it was probably printed on adhesive-backed, brushed aluminum foil.
Amtrak Interior Decor

Museums and Private Ownership

It appears that 8401 was sold at Amtrak Auction, circa 1979 to 1981, to a Mr. Al Knippert. How it spent its time in his ownership is unknown to me. He may have eventually donated it to a museum in New Orleans.

A fellow RPCA member and car owner bought two cars from the Louisiana Railway Heritage Trust in 1994. He reports that 8401 was at their location in New Orleans at the time, inside a fenced area. It had already been sandblasted and painted in yellow primer.

Bob Moen purchased 8401 in 1998, and changed its car number back to 1146. He moved it to Hooper, Nebraska and had wheel and window work done. (I understand it traded for two better wheelsets from CNWX 301036, a CNW '400' coach turned MOW car.) Later he moved it to Randolph, Minnesota.

I purchased 1146 from Bob in February 2001.

Including 1146, of the 1950 "International" rolling stock, five of ten cars are known to survive today:

The GN "International" Route Today

Passenger trains still ply the GN's "International" route. Today it is the Amtrak Cascades route, a service supported by Washington State and using Italian "Talgo" passenger cars and EMD F59PHI locomotives. The new trains are pretty neat, incorporating coach, business class, a bistro and a cafe. With a locomotive at each end, there's no observation car, but the side windows are still large to accomodate the wonderful scenery.